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Post by Chains on Sept 15, 2010 8:46:44 GMT -5
Snippet. This rides the dance-pop trend, but this sounds a lot more trance like, with dashes of Calvin Harris.
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Post by TotallyEnormousExtinctDinosaur on Sept 15, 2010 9:20:22 GMT -5
It's "Forever," "Tik Tok," and "Flashback" (Calvin Harris) all in one.
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Post by DAMAGED on Sept 15, 2010 9:41:28 GMT -5
It's "California Gurl" and "Forever." Ugh.
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Post by CLEM on Sept 15, 2010 15:05:25 GMT -5
This is the pop single, apparently.
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 15, 2010 16:32:12 GMT -5
Why is he trying to cater to that audience? UGh urban and rythmic is who will support him.
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Post by Ammer on Sept 15, 2010 22:26:30 GMT -5
Gross.
Go away.
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 17, 2010 11:03:22 GMT -5
Chris confirmed onTwitter this is his pop single.
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Post by irice22 on Sept 18, 2010 6:46:38 GMT -5
This is about 3x worse than "Yeah" by Usher.
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Post by DaveZ35 on Sept 18, 2010 22:21:58 GMT -5
This sounds like a mess. Does anyone care about him anymore?
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Post by Someone Like You on Sept 18, 2010 23:48:15 GMT -5
Yes, Chris has a massive urban following.
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 20, 2010 2:25:30 GMT -5
This sounds like a mess. Does anyone care about him anymore? Its funny u ask that just as he has a #1 single at urban and top 5 at rhythmic with a massive bullet. |
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Post by TotallyEnormousExtinctDinosaur on Sept 20, 2010 6:27:08 GMT -5
Yeah the best song of his entire career is currently topping Urban and (in another week or two) Rhthmic radio.
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Post by -m- on Sept 20, 2010 10:38:44 GMT -5
This sounds like a mess. Does anyone care about him anymore? Its funny u ask that just as he has a #1 single at urban and top 5 at rhythmic with a massive bullet. Yeah, but that audience doesn't really buy records and the mainstream population of America still considers him a joke/has-been... sooo... |
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 20, 2010 13:02:29 GMT -5
Its funny u ask that just as he has a #1 single at urban and top 5 at rhythmic with a massive bullet. Yeah, but that audience doesn't really buy records and the mainstream population of America still considers him a joke/has-been... sooo... This statement is so ignorant and a huge generalization on so many levels. Check the record sales of Taio Cruz, B.O.B, Jason Derulo, Jay Sean, Ke$ha, Rihanna, Katy Perry, etc. Huge hits and none of them are scanning anything impressive. There are plenty of urban artists that are able to mach those sales or exceed them without crossing over to the pop charts. Check the sales of Maxwell, Monica, Trey Songz, Sade, Whitney Houston, Keyshia Cole, Jazmine Sullivan, etc. That ignroant ass statement about the urban audience not buying records was just not necessary, especially when pop artists with major hits cant scan 300k.  I don’t know why some people here are under the illusion that there is not any life outside the pop charts. People sell millions of records and have successful, stable careers without the support of the top 40. This attitude that unless you are on the pop charts you are not havig success is just stupid. |
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Post by -m- on Sept 20, 2010 13:20:33 GMT -5
Oh, f**k off, what's ignorant about FACTS?
The #1 song on Pop radio right now has about 40 million more audience impressions than the #1 Urban song, when talking about figures alone OF COURSE pop radio would be more important to those trying to sell records.
The fact of the mater is very few people are selling albums... single sales are another story, you're telling me Maxwell, Sade, and Keshia Cole are selling as many singles as Rihanna, Katy Perry, and Ke$ha? WRONG.
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 20, 2010 13:36:49 GMT -5
Oh, f**k off, what's ignorant about FACTS? The fact of the mater is very few people are selling albums... single sales are another story, you're telling Maxwell, Sade, and Keshia Cole are selling as many singles as Rihanna, Katy Perry, and Ke$ha? WRONG. They have all sold more albums than all those pop artists you mentioned and that is a FACT. Whats going to make more money a 99cent single or a fullpriced album? You are ignorant as hell. The #1 pop song in the contry is from an artist that cant push more units than an R&B artist like Maxwell or Sade that don’t get half the airplay. So f**k off. |
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Post by -m- on Sept 20, 2010 13:42:58 GMT -5
Okay, well you're comparing apples to oranges.Katy's album has been out a little over a month now whereas the urban artists you mention have been available for way longer? Way to go. Anyways, I'm not going to argue, enjoy your music that few people care about.  |
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Post by angeltimes on Sept 20, 2010 14:52:36 GMT -5
You can't argue anything when you are wrong. You can compare1st week sales. Katy Pery had a disappointing 190k first week? Ke$ha 152k, B.O.B 85k,Jason Derulo 42k, Taio Cruz 25k? All with major top 40 hits. Clearly having a pop hit isnt going to guarantee album sales. Guess no1 cared enough to pick up their albums.  Now lets try Sade 425k, Maxwell 316k, Keyshia Cole 322k, Monica183k, Trey Songz 230k. Even Chris Browns last album was able to pull in 154k first week with no hit and bad PR. So clearly some1 cares and the urban audience will buy albums when they want to, just like the pop audience will. Having a hit on the pop charts isnt going to automatically make people care and buy someones album. You are just an ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded person that doesn't know any better. Toodles  |
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Post by Ammer on Sept 20, 2010 15:18:52 GMT -5
You do have a point angeltimes, but let's be honest, Chris Brown won't have large album sales either. So while you pointed out artist's who've sold more than Katy Perry (which is slightly premature as her album hasn't really been out for more than a month), Ke$ha, etc..., Chris won't be one of them. And you can call other people ignorant and narrow minded but at the end of the day, you're supporting someone who beats women |
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Post by -m- on Sept 20, 2010 15:19:24 GMT -5
I promised myself I wouldn't respond, but really who is the ignorant one by calling someone "bigoted" and "narrow-minded" over the comparison of music charts? GET REAL.
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Post by duh5 on Sept 20, 2010 19:17:43 GMT -5
I think there needs to be some clarification here, Urban does not sell big albums or singles. Urban AC does. It skews to an older audience that is more likely to still buy albums. Which is why Monica, Maxwell, Keyshia, Sade, etc. have all had great album sales.
Chris Brown had his greatest sales success when he had crossovers to pop, period. If he wants to sell albums and singles like he used to, he needs to skew pop or UAC.
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Post by -m- on Sept 20, 2010 19:22:34 GMT -5
Good point. If pop wasn't "important" why would this single be happening which sounds like the biggest pop hits of the year mixed together in the blender?
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Post by Someone Like You on Sept 20, 2010 21:58:16 GMT -5
No reason not to skew both ways. He did it quietly his first two albums, the latter of which sold 295k first week despite not having a Pop hit. ("Kiss Kiss" was not even charting on Pop when the album came out.) So Chris does have a sizeable fanbase outside of the Pop world.
Off topic, I have to say I love how the DJ at the end of the snippet tries to explain the intelligence of the song title.
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Post by Chains on Sept 21, 2010 10:42:13 GMT -5
The reason why Chris crossed over from the beginning was because he was a young artist that made crossover friendly music (with the exception of "With You" and "Forever"). He's gained a greater following at urban for album sales than he has at pop just because of that fact that his singles crossover. A lot of the pop audience KNOWS he's gonna be mainly urban on the album and for that reason alone, he doesn't sell.
Personally, I feel like black male artists have a lose/lose. Some aim for pop from the get go, get top hits and have solid albums and have sh!ttay sales.
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Post by TotallyEnormousExtinctDinosaur on Sept 21, 2010 10:49:51 GMT -5
It's really refreshing to come on to Sound Check and see a musical debate/discussion actually taking place for the first time in over a year!!
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